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	<title>Comments on: Southwest Air &amp; Kevin: Social Responsibility</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-11729</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how could get annoyed with Kevin Smith rants. I don&#039;t even know who he is. I did hear something about a fat guy causing a ruckus on Southwest Air. I don&#039;t know any details but SWA always seems to treat me better than any other airline ever. So I&#039;d have to assume it was the fat guy. My view is that if there&#039;s a fire and only half of the passengers are going to get out, is he between me and the wing exit? Can he fit through the wing exit? Am I supposed to die so he can be fat and fly? If I&#039;m ever on a flight and there&#039;s someone sitting in the exit row who won&#039;t get out and take us with him, I&#039;m the one who will raise a ruckus. They have devices to check the size of your carry on, maybe we need to check the size of the person too. This is really something that the FAA should fix. 

The great thing about the medium is you can turn it off and go skiing or diving or something. It&#039;s not like they&#039;ve strapped you to a chair and sewed your eyes open....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how could get annoyed with Kevin Smith rants. I don&#8217;t even know who he is. I did hear something about a fat guy causing a ruckus on Southwest Air. I don&#8217;t know any details but SWA always seems to treat me better than any other airline ever. So I&#8217;d have to assume it was the fat guy. My view is that if there&#8217;s a fire and only half of the passengers are going to get out, is he between me and the wing exit? Can he fit through the wing exit? Am I supposed to die so he can be fat and fly? If I&#8217;m ever on a flight and there&#8217;s someone sitting in the exit row who won&#8217;t get out and take us with him, I&#8217;m the one who will raise a ruckus. They have devices to check the size of your carry on, maybe we need to check the size of the person too. This is really something that the FAA should fix. </p>
<p>The great thing about the medium is you can turn it off and go skiing or diving or something. It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;ve strapped you to a chair and sewed your eyes open&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Apologies, Repentance, and Social Media</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-10009</link>
		<dc:creator>Apologies, Repentance, and Social Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some have suggested that Kevin Smith abused his &#8220;social power&#8221; by continuing to trash Southwest Airlines online even after they apologized. As one blogger commented: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some have suggested that Kevin Smith abused his &#8220;social power&#8221; by continuing to trash Southwest Airlines online even after they apologized. As one blogger commented: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9891</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sincere apologies if I wasn&#039;t clear about Mr. Smith&#039;s obligation to honor his voice. I didn&#039;t mean to imply that you didn&#039;t think he had that right/obligation. 

Mr. Smith does have a lot of power, though, due to the strength of his brand. For the record, SWA has great responsibility in this case as well.

The silver lining in this sad situation is that it is an example of how *not* to do something. 

Thanks again for opening the forum and giving folks an opportunity to comment. Best, M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sincere apologies if I wasn&#8217;t clear about Mr. Smith&#8217;s obligation to honor his voice. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you didn&#8217;t think he had that right/obligation. </p>
<p>Mr. Smith does have a lot of power, though, due to the strength of his brand. For the record, SWA has great responsibility in this case as well.</p>
<p>The silver lining in this sad situation is that it is an example of how *not* to do something. </p>
<p>Thanks again for opening the forum and giving folks an opportunity to comment. Best, M.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Lisogorsky</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9888</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Lisogorsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. With social media exposure, comes social responsibility. Some people abuse their power and online status to go overboard and exaggerate the situation for their own benefit. 

It is true that Southwest Airlines failed when approaching Kevin Smith and asked him to leave, but at the same time Kevin Smith failed on his social responsibility to voice his complaint outside of proportions and, knowingly of his power and status, take it to other media outlets taking advantage of the situation.

The difference is that Southwest Airlines failed him as a customer and later fixed it providing him with another flight and a comp for his frustation. But Kevin Smith failed his followers -those who follow him because he adds value to their lives- as a public figure and he is not compensating any of them for the time he stole from them when ramping against Southwest Airlines.

We are experiencing a shift in communications that we haven&#039;t realized yet. The social networks are only tools and mediums through which we communicate with each other. They might be here today and might not tomorrow, but the relationships we build thru them will stay forever and we have to value them and respect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. With social media exposure, comes social responsibility. Some people abuse their power and online status to go overboard and exaggerate the situation for their own benefit. </p>
<p>It is true that Southwest Airlines failed when approaching Kevin Smith and asked him to leave, but at the same time Kevin Smith failed on his social responsibility to voice his complaint outside of proportions and, knowingly of his power and status, take it to other media outlets taking advantage of the situation.</p>
<p>The difference is that Southwest Airlines failed him as a customer and later fixed it providing him with another flight and a comp for his frustation. But Kevin Smith failed his followers -those who follow him because he adds value to their lives- as a public figure and he is not compensating any of them for the time he stole from them when ramping against Southwest Airlines.</p>
<p>We are experiencing a shift in communications that we haven&#8217;t realized yet. The social networks are only tools and mediums through which we communicate with each other. They might be here today and might not tomorrow, but the relationships we build thru them will stay forever and we have to value them and respect them.</p>
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		<title>By: While I was skiing: The 10-day media lowdown — Mengel Musings by Amy Mengel</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9872</link>
		<dc:creator>While I was skiing: The 10-day media lowdown — Mengel Musings by Amy Mengel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had pretty openly addressed the issue and made apologies via their blog and other channels. Some, like Sonny Gill, even seemed to think that Smith was bullying or antagonizing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had pretty openly addressed the issue and made apologies via their blog and other channels. Some, like Sonny Gill, even seemed to think that Smith was bullying or antagonizing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9838</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that way doesn&#039;t it? We obviously have numerous viewpoints on this issue that either side or don&#039;t side with each party. Unfortunately, it does feel like a draw when looking at the entire situation. But at the least, hopefully SWA tightens up their policies and employee training so something like this doesn&#039;t happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that way doesn&#8217;t it? We obviously have numerous viewpoints on this issue that either side or don&#8217;t side with each party. Unfortunately, it does feel like a draw when looking at the entire situation. But at the least, hopefully SWA tightens up their policies and employee training so something like this doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Davina K. Brewer</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9837</link>
		<dc:creator>Davina K. Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonny, great debate going on here and these comments are so good.

@jameswebster makes an excellent point, the SWA is not one person. Many people share responsibility here, from the staff on the plane, the bloggers and the Tweeters at corporate, and those who hired/trained them.

@gregelwell Loved your comment about the &quot;story within the story.&quot; This is a social media case study unfolding, with events happening real time, LIVE for the world to watch. 

But it goes past observation; turn a light on something, you change it. All the back and forth between the viewers has certainly added fuel to the fire, changed the story into something more. 

I agree with lots of folks here that SM power should be used responsibly, and that both parties share fault for this situation. FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonny, great debate going on here and these comments are so good.</p>
<p>@jameswebster makes an excellent point, the SWA is not one person. Many people share responsibility here, from the staff on the plane, the bloggers and the Tweeters at corporate, and those who hired/trained them.</p>
<p>@gregelwell Loved your comment about the &#8220;story within the story.&#8221; This is a social media case study unfolding, with events happening real time, LIVE for the world to watch. </p>
<p>But it goes past observation; turn a light on something, you change it. All the back and forth between the viewers has certainly added fuel to the fire, changed the story into something more. </p>
<p>I agree with lots of folks here that SM power should be used responsibly, and that both parties share fault for this situation. FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Garber</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9835</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Garber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obesity has not been a huge issue on the several dozen flights a year I fly on SWA.  And when it is, things get a little tight.  It is not unusual for every seat to be sold, and then things can get really tight.

When I buy a ticket, I pay for space.

When a fellow passenger spills into my space, SWA cannot deliver what I purchased.  It is a form of overbooking.

Now, if passengers do not want the opinion of a flight attendant to determine their allowable girth, perhaps a simple tailor&#039;s tape measure would help.  Publish how many inches of girth are allowed, and outfit each plane with a tape measure.  How hard can be be?

No doubt some government reg may come into play ... to which I say, there should be a national standard, fairly and unambiguously administered.

Ironically, SWA just email me a promotion on cheap tickets as I was writing this ... Always trying to fill every seat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obesity has not been a huge issue on the several dozen flights a year I fly on SWA.  And when it is, things get a little tight.  It is not unusual for every seat to be sold, and then things can get really tight.</p>
<p>When I buy a ticket, I pay for space.</p>
<p>When a fellow passenger spills into my space, SWA cannot deliver what I purchased.  It is a form of overbooking.</p>
<p>Now, if passengers do not want the opinion of a flight attendant to determine their allowable girth, perhaps a simple tailor&#8217;s tape measure would help.  Publish how many inches of girth are allowed, and outfit each plane with a tape measure.  How hard can be be?</p>
<p>No doubt some government reg may come into play &#8230; to which I say, there should be a national standard, fairly and unambiguously administered.</p>
<p>Ironically, SWA just email me a promotion on cheap tickets as I was writing this &#8230; Always trying to fill every seat!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9834</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Molly - thanks for articulating this whole mess into one concise comment.

You hit the nail on the head that instead of the constant badgering: &#039;He could have used the opportunity to bring an awareness, solve a problem and then set policy moving forward.&#039;

I&#039;m not telling Kevin to not have a voice at all, it&#039;s the demeanor in which he did that, though will create change in Southwest policies, has created this great divide between two parties.

Thanks again for the great comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molly &#8211; thanks for articulating this whole mess into one concise comment.</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head that instead of the constant badgering: &#8216;He could have used the opportunity to bring an awareness, solve a problem and then set policy moving forward.&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not telling Kevin to not have a voice at all, it&#8217;s the demeanor in which he did that, though will create change in Southwest policies, has created this great divide between two parties.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the great comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.sonnygill.com/southwest-air-kevin-social-responsibility#comment-9833</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenny - really appreciate your thoughts.

I respect his side of the story and being humiliated, publicly, by SWA employees. Even more so, and something I just commented on above to Seth, is Southwest&#039;s responsibility on the web and their lack of judgment when it comes to their blog post to Kevin (which I&#039;ve publicly stated I disagreed with) and their treating (or lack thereof) of their comments, which many are riddled with hate.

In the end, I&#039;m not Kevin. I don&#039;t know his feelings and how he&#039;s doing emotionally with this situation. I&#039;m sticking with my guns to this post on responsibility, but I agree SWA could have done a better job in their communication and handling of this situation.

Thanks again for sharing your views. Very well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny &#8211; really appreciate your thoughts.</p>
<p>I respect his side of the story and being humiliated, publicly, by SWA employees. Even more so, and something I just commented on above to Seth, is Southwest&#8217;s responsibility on the web and their lack of judgment when it comes to their blog post to Kevin (which I&#8217;ve publicly stated I disagreed with) and their treating (or lack thereof) of their comments, which many are riddled with hate.</p>
<p>In the end, I&#8217;m not Kevin. I don&#8217;t know his feelings and how he&#8217;s doing emotionally with this situation. I&#8217;m sticking with my guns to this post on responsibility, but I agree SWA could have done a better job in their communication and handling of this situation.</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing your views. Very well said!</p>
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